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@Dinastya

Hi,
so I´ve tested Your worlds.
(The "EuphoriaN" world folder was cpl. empty in Your rar file!)

So I tested the other 2 world and everything runs perfect:

....
[INFO] This server is running CraftBukkit version git-Bukkit-1.2.3-R0.2-3-g7acc04c-b2063jnks (MC: 1.2.3) (Implementi
rsion 1.2.3-R0.3-SNAPSHOT)
[INFO] [TerrainControl] Loading TerrainControl v2.1.0dev
[INFO] [Essentials] Loading Essentials vDev2.9.36
[INFO] [dynmap] Loading dynmap v0.34-957
[INFO] [WorldBorder] Loading WorldBorder v1.5.3
[INFO] [EssentialsSpawn] Loading EssentialsSpawn vDev2.9.36
[INFO] [TerrainControl] Enabling TerrainControl v2.1.0dev
[INFO] TerrainControl v2.1.0dev is now enabled
[INFO] Preparing level "FlorandioN"
[INFO] Default game type: 1
[INFO] TerrainControl: settings for 'FlorandioN' loaded
[INFO] TerrainControl: mode Normal enabled for 'FlorandioN'
[INFO] TerrainControl: world initialized with seed is 1290393540
[INFO] Preparing start region for level 0 (Seed: 1290393540)
[INFO] Preparing spawn area: 44%
[INFO] Preparing spawn area: 97%
[INFO] Preparing start region for level 1 (Seed: 1290393540)
[INFO] Preparing spawn area: 16%
[INFO] Preparing spawn area: 36%
[INFO] Preparing spawn area: 65%
[INFO] Preparing spawn area: 93%
[INFO] Preparing start region for level 2 (Seed: 1290393540)
[INFO] Preparing spawn area: 52%
....
same with the 2. world "Euphoria", just perfect, no errors.

So we can no be very sure, it´s not Your worlds / configs which are the problem.
May sound a little cracy and I don´t really belive it´s the seed (but this is our only difference I can see so far), but please try now to use my seed:
tim1998+steps1956
(Turns out to (Seed: 1290393540) in the console)

(it´s the only difference we have to my test scenario. TC = same version, MC...I think too...bukkit ???? Post COMPLETE log from top to bottom please.

UPDATE: Forget about the seed, I´ve tested with Your seed and it works perfect too.

As it works at my machine, if we don´t find out what´s the diffeence this way (as there is no), we should keep our eye now to the bukkit version.
Take the last one please if not done.
I talk about dev versions !!!!
...and posted the link to it already before, here the very last one:
http://dl.bukkit.org/downloads/craftbukkit/get/00895_1.2.3-R0.3/craftbukkit-dev.jar
(There is no recomendet out yet)
...
My download ...You are sure You did read everything carefull before....?
Link to the post just 1 page before:
http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/terrain-control/?comment=1435

mysource

@Dinastya

Hi,
what I want to make sure is, that You use always the last versions of TC-Mod, MC and bukkit.
(Not mixing versions and so on)

I don´t need to use commands for building up new worlds...just delete the "old" 3 world folders and the buildup start when the server starts (and TC is engaged) automatic at my system.
Anyway, please try my download and tell here if it works for You.

Mysource
PS: Just getting 2 mails and will look to Your configs soon posting the result here after this has been done.

@Khoorn

Hi Khoorn,
YES...
I love this creativ way to solve the problems now.

In my last world (the download world) I need to use up to -6.5 to get realistic world.
If the neccesarity of using this extreme values is a bug, I will be glad.
(This extreme values would cut much of the possiblities to further finetune the world by far)
Please always put the last (!) version of any TC.jar for download, not only I will be glad and this will help to shorten the time till everything is working perfect again, I think.

Thanks too regarding the Olof Info.
Everything will get nice, I´m sure ;-)

@Dinastya:
I always delete the 3 world folders cpl. in the server folder before starting a new world to build up.
I never ever used the ingame commands like /mv dreate .. and so on. (only /tc map)
(I too always work local at my PC and in our home network for testing)
Manually deleting is always best in my eyes, deleted is deleted and the console shows the new build up clearly...and use the last versions of everything.

Try it this way, we find it out I hope today what causes the problems, together with Khoorn I´m sure by 100% ;-)

Best regard
mysource

@Dinastya

Hi,
thanks and okay.
I made a short look to the two error pages now.
Some questions:
1. Did You try WITHOUT the 2 plugin multiverse?
2. Did You try to let a cpl. new world build up?

For sure I assume You use the very last download of bukkit from here:
http://dl.bukkit.org/downloads/craftbukkit/
and
MC 1.2.3 with TC dev 2.1.0 from the "official" Download at top of page (and same in my link below)

In both of the Pastie error logs You are definitely using Your old world(s).
Let´s try to find out the problem:
1. Download and use my world some postings before.
2. Use it with Your setup and tell if this works.

Step 2:
If my world didn´t give You errors, let´s find out which value / setting(s) / differences are between this two worlds / configs.

I will stay online and logged in here now the next hours, but only looking fro time to time for some news....real life and family is too present ;-))

mysource

@Dinastya :-) came in to fast so I write in 2 postings my answer...

Hi,
yes this looks good.
But if I set up a tutorial, I have to have the psossibility to write it and create the site and so on.
This has ever been best at my own webspace I think.
About the style and so on, I don´t think it´s much important, mainly it should be easy to navigate and give a good help.
The main problem with this linked page is the same as here at the TC website:
Very small space to show images and so on.
Looks modern and cool, but isn´t best I think.
Best is always form follows function and never vice versa ;-)
No flash, no fancy modern webdesign, just easy plain html usable without browser plugins and independent from 3. parties rules => own webspace is best.

I use a wysiwyg editor to set up webpages and do this always offline, upload after tested / updated via ftp.
Olof has had offered to me simmilar possibilities and I made him the favor to share all my bo2´s there for showing and download. But the manageability of this kind of website isn´t by far less convenient as I´m used to have.
Thanks a lot, may be we do it Your way if I can have all the rights to set it up, but...I like much more to do it my way, even if it looks a little "oldfashioned" ;-)
Thanks again a lot for offering Your help, it will be used in one or an other way for sure soon.

Best regard
mysource

@Dinastya

Hi,
first use one single name please....;-)...why confusing with 3 names...?
Second try out what I´ve posted one post earlier please.
As I told last night: If many persons and I myself too have working TC-Mod servers, Yours should be getting to work too.
So if this isn´t the case as You are telling, let´s find out which differences You have at Your setup, machine and so on.
Much more technical INFOS please, as I´ve told 1 time before...

Regarding skype and similar things:
I hate it, like facebook and other stupid "datalogger and timewasters" too...I would never ever communicate this way, no nervs to be confused by talking while working, sorry....and no interest to be monitored always. ;-)
Best way to get in contact with myself is and will ever stay, to WRITE an Email with added images (if neccessary) and files (if necessary) and so on.
I can read it if it´s the convenient moment and will not be disturbed by talking.
It´s my point of view... I´m a person of the old fashioned generation, may be ;-)

Most important not only regarding TC-Mod is:
1. Always work step by step only changing ONE value at one step!
2. Work clean and make always saves BEFORE the next step in testting / trying other configs.
3. Compare what made the difference.
(even with Your technical problem regarding the server errors)

I know everybody knows this...but...even I myself always went in trouble by working sloppily sometimes and forget not keeping to this rules.

Hoping to get feedback regarding the tutorial thing and my download world during the next days.
... and hope to get contacted by Olof too ...

Best regard
mysource

Hi, me again ;-)

To give everybody who wants help creating the tutorial a point to start with a working world, I made a download containing the configs of my last test-world.

This world is now at waterlevel 20, has normal looking biomes (only 3 => Desert, Jungle and Extreme Hills...all set to smooth values) and a "level 8 full up to 256 height world" :-)

ATTENTION:
Always use this seed in the server.properties:
level-seed=tim1998+steps1956

DOWNLOAD configs.

Additional Info:
I use TC dev 2.1.0 Download, MC 1.2.3 and last bukkit dev version (craftbukkit-1.2.3-R0.3-20120311.102258-1.jar).

Use this world as a start to find out much more how to achive a world we are used to in the past and have the 256 height now too.
Please send me all obtained insights via Email => swia@gmx.de.

Next days I will start with the new tutorial-website.

Best regard
mysource

Hi @ All,
yesterday I was a little emotive to the whole thread here, but thank´s a lot for nobody misunderstood what i´m talking about. This makes me glad and gives some new inspiration to dig again in the stuff here.

@ Khoorn:
Yes, I´ve used BiomeHeight: -3.0 in the 3 Biomes in normaleBiomes at my test setup.
less volatility (o.1)
In worldConfig everything at 0.0 and only FractureVertical:-1.0
This was only a start point because everything else gives the former mentioned "old world at only higher level" or simple nothing (water).

To Your question:
What are You thinking and why asking .... that´s exactly what I wrote before:
We need much more infos about the coherences of everything in TC-Mod.
If not You, Olof, Wickth (who is this at all....????....) knows AND tells us, who else could do?

...and what about the not working block exchange?
Do You have an idea what causes this now?

Regarding some questions to the compilation of dev versions:
I always get errrors if trying to compilate the bukkit folder part of the dev-build(s) in the repository-download (zip) ... and I think, I´m making some stupid mistakes as a pure Java noob, I am still.
But I always want to learn more...and more ;-)
I´v written 3 Mails to Olof, but get no respons this far...is he still alive ???? Communication was very well before, but breaks down the last days...is he still okay ??? ...or just bussy?
That´s too what I´m complaining hard regarding the communication here and all about TC-Mod.
Has to get better for sure to get things working much more satisfying to everybody.

I think I will write You an Email today or tomorrow (I need some distance from time to time regarding TC...) and will ask You many things to get the Info-line more straight. ;-)

...and please put always the last TerrainControl.jar for download to avoid even more timeloss in getting the thing to work like it was before... (the compilation problems of myself ... and some others too will avoid to do this directly from repository)
...........
@ minechomp:
Yes, this border or even much more the "Isle in Isle" setup, was always very sensible to values. Sometimes an Isle biome in a bigger surrounding biome (like huge mountains in Plains) is working with small settings BS 6 to 8 and BR 6 to 8 only. A little less or more, and this biome is gone by 100%.
My experiebce is now "only" regarding the elder versions.
As usual and much bugging, every Update to MC..and all the necessary Updates to MC / bukkit in the following, puts everything hard learnd nearly back to zero like now.
We are now at a point below zero, because the new settings are in 2 ways:

1. Using "only" level up to 7 gives an "old" world not using the 256 advantage :-(

2. Using level 8 kills all the experience made so far and puts f.i. me back to the beginning of try and error testing...even now to start with a halfway decent world. :-((

To find out how to work in the configs with this extrem new factors, will be again a hard part and needs as much as possible information from the creators of this genious Mod together with a much more constructive teamwork of the people which are a little more in this Mod....which leads me direct to:

@ledhead900:
Yes, I wil contact You by Email.
(Please send me one to get Your Adress....PM is far to much inconvenient and not the best for communicate to set up a tutorial)
We will extend and revise my existing tutorial to all the new insights we hopefully get step by steps regarding the settings for diferent types of world with the new TC version(s).

I know about some more persons which could help in sharing their experience with the "Tutorialists":
Next to us mainly Khoorn, Olof, Wickth (`????) and additional Wessexstock mainly and everybody who gets out some nice results in world creation with the new Mod version now.
Suggestion how to dig in:
I will set up / extend / rework my tutorial, giving it a 100% separated website, brandnew and "only" filled with a real tutorial about TC-Mod.
Starting with the basics and extending / leading to the more deeper stuff like "Isle in Isle" and so on.
Finally I think it will end in giving the values (always accompanied by images and map-images) for the most wanted world setups like island worlds, floating worlds, cave worlds, "Rocky Mountains", wasteland worlds and so on.

This is what I will do and will offer to the community here.
To achive this, I definitely NEED ALL POSSIBLE SUPPORT by Khoorn, Olof and all people mentioned before (+ the rest here), to get out some really helpfull Tutorial.

Together we can set up a big thing here with TC-Mod.
...but if it will stay at the way it is now (all the knowledge is spread out at 140+ pages and a wiki with dead never working links in and so on), the Mod will bob up and down much below it´s value, I´m convinced.

I´ve now to establish a working and fast communication to Olof (and Khoorn too ;-) ...) to get some Infos always from this "first hand persons" ;-))
The rest will be "only work", work and more work in the next time.

Puhh, I did never ever before write such long storys as the last hours ;-) ... but I feel this is long overdue, at least after this version Update now, the hardest to work with since ever even from the times of the roots => PTM-Mod.

My invitation now at ALL:
Please sent me Your experiences (what did You get with which settings and so on) regarding the new TC version.

Use EMAIL only to contact me:
swia@gmx.de

I will summarize this together with my experiences and the help of some persons like ledhead900, Wesexstock and Olof?...Khoorn? and? to a Tutorial in the next weeks / month.
That´s my offer and my part which I can accomplish to give somthing to all regarding TC-Mod.

@ ALL:
How do You think about it?

Best regard
mysource
PS:Always sorry about the still remainig typos...I went over some times to correct, but...I´m far from beeing perfect in english writing...;-(