Bukkit

The plugin sort of works only a few passive ones but when i try to use the help or anything like that most of them say there is none. i should have access to every command but i cant even shoot a fire ball with this. any help?

Well that's another reason then that I see earthfist should be made so earth has a "fast reaction" move.

@Trw1999

the water bottle is already in the latest build the earth thing isnt but the bottle is not as strong as normal water because if you are close to water you can spam watermanipulation but with abottle you have to wait for the water that comes back to you and refills your bottle

Here is my idea: I have noticed that water and earth do not have a quick reaction like fire and air do fire has Fireblast and blaze then air has all the pushing and pulling moves plus airswipe. I know that earth and water have to pull from there source but if there was a move like earthfist that you picked up from a block then could walk around normally then shoot it at anytime (would have the effect of a dispenser shooting the bent block but from your hand) and it did little damage i think it would be really cool, as for waterbenders if they could fill up a bottle of water and shoot a weak sort of water manipulation from it, that would help earth and water have quicker reactions.

@DBjet

ye or something already did with water and air the bubble but than for earth but than it get problems with going up it will only fall down, so the only way is lava or water and idk if people would like lava :D But anyways like i said i was gonna watch all series again :P something flr fire came up, okej so everyone knows about azula mako and zuko and many more they all fight with fire knifes if they are close so i was thinking of a passive fpr if they fight with hands and illumination selected (as passive would be 2 strong) they will set people into fire. Also i have read somewhere that orion isnt going to use stick to make air benders fly but would it be nice if they have a stick and airspout selected feather falling so they can travel a bit if they jump off a mountain? like air is only faster on land but not in the air? but these are only ideas and it would be nice if someone reads them but i tottaly understand if orion is 2 busy with his own life and i never want to push him :)

• edit oh and for the 2nd earthtunnel it would reverse direct if you hold it and it goes out of range but if you change to something else it would regerse after 5 to 10 sec (but this could be rlly buggy if someone toggles it onAnd off every sec
• oh and for makemyday: if you wait till 1.5 there is coming HUD (redstone that works on light of the sun) if you install serversigns and make that listen to redstone you can make it autmated :D but that is going bad if you have multiple worlds.

@codiaz

i was actually thinking something similar for the 2nd earthtunnel, but i didn't know if applying water physics to earth or a combination of no-clip and something like the fly plugins are possible for this sort of thing.

although, i think if what you said is possible, like how glowstone for tremorsense is only visible for the user, then i think it would have to be 2x2x3 because that is the maximum amount of blocks a player can occupy at one time. and your idea makes a lot of sense because that way the player would be limited to the same time limit as when you go under water (unfortunately too slow to use for evasion like in the series, unless slightly sped up, but would probably still be plenty useful... and dangerous). although idk how you would manage to get out of the earth. jumping out and turning it off at the same time sounds awkward.

@orion304

• HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :D
• Ye I gonna watch the series again :D and get some more information about water and earth, I also think that the earth armor should do something because where was Aang able to, when he was in one of the 2 forms of the eartharmor? Idk any (In the sphere he could do nothing, In the crystalized armor he only could rush as a train towards them and do his attack when he was near by going out of the armor)
• Couldn't ya make it so that everything around the earthbender in a sphere of 1-2 gets water? For the second part of earthtunnel?
• And you say you are done with earth, air and fire but why wouldn't you make more than 9 bendings? This plugin is amazing and gets populairder every SEC :P you are serious the freaking most genius person!
• You told like a month ago you was maybe planning to make it possible to make more than 1 config file for multiple groups is this coming or is it not coming I would love to get it :P
• Thanks anyway!

I STRONGLY agree with Asurakwesi earth shell would be great as an earthbender myself and having watched the series i think tremorsense should also have a light under mobs and players that only you can see it would make it more realistic ,but you could only see the light under mobs and players if you were on the bound slot.

@Asurakwesi

i agree, i was actually going to suggest an earth shell (which falls under earth armor in the wiki), but i cut it out because i wanted to shorten my comment as much as i could. yes. that is more practical than a moving shield. i should have thought of it like that in the first place. thank you for pointing that out.

@DGanshirt

I was thinking about that. Yes, maybe it could be on earthgrab instead of eartharmour however, an exact earthgrab around yourself isn't as protective as something a bit more enclosed. I think it could be slightly smaller to cover a bit more at more angles. I suppose maybe the earthgrab shell would be more suitable.

Is it possible to make so some bloodbenders can only bloodbend at night when moon is up and some can bend all time? Is it possible to set up permissions nodes for this? Example: bending.water.bloodbendmoon bending.water.bloodbendalltime

Would be awesome if it's possible!

@Asurakwesi

What if shifting while using earthgrab brought up the same structure as when clicking, except around you, acting as a shield? Put simply, you earthgrab yourself by shifting, and it protects you.

@DBjet

I see what you're saying. I'm just assuming earthbending defense is different the others. Earthbending in this plugin is quite static. You can't move around too much if you want to initiate earthbending techniques in some moderate to advanced sequence. The defense seems to be the same. Earthbending and waterbending are the most similar, yes. Obviously, this is because they are the two heaviest elements in terms of mass. As far as some solid, full bodily defense technique goes, I can't think of anything especially mobile. I can only think of something like "earth shell" which would probably fuse with earth armour where you would hold shift instead of clicking and it could put a hollow 4x4x2 (4 length, 4 width, 2 height) with a 2x2 space which is enough space to avoid damaging themselves (hopefully). When they release shift the shell would fall back into the ground. There would have to be enough earth around them for a fully-formed shell. I don't know, that's what comes to my head. xD

@Asurakwesi

i agree with most that. i was just comparing earth to water because i felt like it was closer than the other 2. and my point about the defense was that i just found it odd that the element of defense is the only one complete open from above...

@DBjet

Earthbending is supposed to be different from waterbending with the basic attack natures. orion mentioned this before and also the defense of the earthbender is actually more flexible. The way earthbenders raise the earth around them (which covers a lot more than them depending on the amount of earth) allows them to make walls of different forms, of different heights etc, etc. Players who master earthbending have VERY defensive capabilities. I won't go on about that but I think the elements are well balanced and accomplished.

Anywho, I have a suggestion about tremorsense. I think codiaz is right about it not being effective enough and I think I know how it could be accurate, possible and effective. I think the user, when using tremorsense should see glowstone underneath other entities, anything living thing as well as themselves. This should include mobs, both hostile and harmless. I think the range should reach around 20 blocks or something (configable), I also think whatever they detect should be configable (hostile mobs, players etc.) to make it something well controlled. I honestly think it would work really well for earthbenders and make tremorsense a really useful ability for many situations. Thank you for reading.

@codiaz

• fast - slow, it goes both ways. like i said, it varies too much for basic attacks. we can take lots of scenes and see it go both ways. over all, earth benders are slower. but not all the time and not with basic attacks. that one scene can't negate the rest.
• that is earth armor and it was on him too short of a time to tell. toph had a good scene and ... oh .. hmm .. you are right XD she is slightly slower by my time. pretty good for bending metal. the golems are called earth mannequins and they don't have living people inside.

woot! :D i made it short!

update for your update: that wouldn't happen. XD considering water has a great method of attacking, great method for defense, and great method for speed... oh and then healing, and sealing you in ice.. oh and they now have water in plentiful supply... making earthblast a little easier to use and more like the series is not going to make the game easy... well. not for earthbenders. waterbenders seem to have it pretty easy though.

@DBjet

• So i did some research into avatar also (already did ALOT watched it over 5 times and read every post and check the avatar wiki daily) and I came 2 the conclusion that you are in many point right but I just can't accept that earth benders are fast!
• The one in the intro is rlly slow if you watched probending than you can see korra do watermanipulation in 0.4 sec and the earthbenders do this in 0.7 sec so yes it is faster. http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/File:Aang%27s_crystal_armor.png This is where aang made himself a golem and he was rlly slow also toph made herself a iron golem and walked stable and strong BUT not fast (There is no way they can run in that form), and you are right this is my last post about it, I think it is clear to everyone you are a fan like me :DDDD Well good luck!
• And second of all in the plugin earthblast is much stronger than watermanipulation if orion makes it easier to use earthblast it would be boring, and there is no game that is the same as in a video because you need to make all classes/bendings as good as other classes/bendings.

@codiaz

in majority earth benders are in a way slow, but not when it comes to the basic earth bending. basic earthblast and watermanipulation are about the same speed. sometimes water is slower, sometimes earth. it matters how much they are focusing. like with large quantities or accuracy. it isn't so cut and dry.

and earthbenders being slow is kind of argueable. it is more like their go and stop movements make them pause a lot, but there is a lot of force and speed behind it. so yes. they don't have a long flowing movement like water, but they have incredible speed and force behind their movements. and then some of the same can be said about the earth bending. a lot of the solid earth movement was fast, but the movements formed out of many pieces large chunks was slow. most the bending that was mainly a stamp was quite fast. most the pillars were a simple stamp and faster than most benders could react, then there was things like earthblast, which was a stamp and then a punch. which was a varying speed similar to water manipulation in the series. then the more complicated stuff which took more concentration and more time..

i told you i timed it. average speeds out of 3

earthblast: stamp and then kick - 1.20 seconds *note* kicking is slower than the punch.

watermanipulation: drawing up the water and then shot - 1.47 seconds *note* the one from the intro is slower than most, but it is only about 0.15 second more.

these scenes were from the intro to avatar: the last airbender. if you can't trust the intro, the thing made to make a good accurate first impression, then idk what to tell you. you don't see me saying water is slow XD because it isn't so black and white. throughout the series the earthblast and watermanipulation vary in speed enough that it is safe to say that they are the same speed on average. so just in case. earthblast in battle: 0.74 seconds. watermanipulation in battle: 0.80. both on average of 3. from 6 reasonably similar clips.

im not sure if you mean golem/earth mannequin or earth armor... aang used earth armor 3 times, but 2 times for very short moments where he propeled himself forward pretty fast. the last time it wasn't the same, it was a sphere that he was hiding in. otherwise toph used earth armor and was pretty fast. and aang didn't make a golem, toph did. the golems were one of the highest skill levels for an earth bender. it takes loads of concentration to move it completely. so like any bending, yes, it takes longer to bend it because of the high level of concentration. now if you are talking about earth armor... i have the clips here... the slight change in mobility is pointed out clearly by wiki to effect the range of attacks and not the speed. i was originally focusing on toph in the metal eartharmor because i figured if anything, that has to be the hardest to use, but she moved quite fast in it.

you know what... im trying to cover everything in my replies, but i don't think it is going to matter what i say. my original comment was only about the simple basic parts in an attempt to suggest small details or major part of earthbending that could greatly effect earth's canon and operations while also making the comment short and simple. i have put a lot of time and effort into this. i left out over half of the things i would like to say or suggest because ik they aren't absolutely necessary. i don't want to continue this conversation. it isn't an argument yet, but i don't want it to get there and i don't want to continue to litter orion's page with these long comments. so unless our comments become short and simple... no thank you. im done XD (yes i realize my comments are like 2-3 times longer than yours. i can't seem to shorten them any more without leaving out big details)