Bukkit

@eccentricnz

I very much understand that. But is restriction for admins still in the realm of "okay"? After all, I could limit what TARDIS could do so they use it for travel/temp storage of admin stuffs...keeping all gm1 acquired stuff apart from the rest of the interactive world, etc. My main goal is to keep the main play-worlds in their own play-style, while offering players different styles depending on world they choose. Along with PVP arenas, etc. TARDIS wouldn't, in this case, be a distinct advantage for admins, as there wouldn't be much they could do.

See at this point I'm not talking about making money, I'm asking if it's okay to restrict TARDIS to admins only, so that regular players could use the VM as the way they travel. Technically the "features" of the TARDIS are built into the VM, so it's still within the EULA, but I don't know if you or Mojang would see it that way, see?

@eccentricnz

Thanks for those links. It doesn't seem to cover admin specific things, but I'm assuming it's possible to keep admin specific plugins separate without having to offer them to everyone.

This is yet another grey area, as my original intent was to give TARDIS only to admins/moderators as a fancy way of getting around (completely over the top way to /tp but you know...themes and all...gives the kids something to gawk at and talk about). But at the same time the admin/mods could allow players to be companions as well, to bring them about to different place, etc. Pretty much a little glimpse into admin world, which isn't a restriction so much as it is a position with me personally, as anyone technically could become admins, if they play the game right...and at this stage "the game" isn't referring to Minecraft, see?

I am in need of your professional opinions. I put my question in the forum so that I do not fill up the main page with NON-TARDIS plugin topics.

Im having a problem... TARDIS plugin is having a fit

my tardis(twelfth that I take pride in) is GREAT!

the only problem is that sometimes I can grow rooms then it throws a hissy fit and I can't because "TARDIS wasn't created in own world" or something like that! It sometimes works and it sometimes doesn't... no matter how many times I delete and start again and redo all the create world false default world config stuff... It just doesn't work... I'm using a default world to save memory

Do you have pictures of all the console rooms anywhere?

@Squawkers13

What I'm trying to do is create a server within the limitations and you act as though the words of the EULA are magical and cover every.single.thing. that could ever occur. Sadly that isn't the case in reality, which is why I'm asking about particulars.

Mojang obviously wants people to enjoy the game, they also want people to extend it and add on to it. Says so in the EULA. All I've done is address what I and anyone who can comprehensively read would normally address if discussing it with, say, Notch himself. However, it isn't Notch in this case and therefore non-Notch reserves the right to throw accusation and lambaste? If I weren't being accused of illegal action I wasn't taking I wouldn't make such an issue of this. Sadly you have turned this into a situation where I need to defend my words.

@Squawkers13

First, you should ask the proper questions. I don't even have it advertised, it's not even fully operational, things aren't fully in place, and very few people know its address.

Now if everyone could please stop jumping to conclusions that would be nice.

I guess everyone missed the part about how I'm asking and not just throwing myself in there? Too bad we can't report people for being presumptuous. Is it too much to ask people to take into scope a concept without accusation?

I mean, if we go by what you said yourself, then one could presume you have a server and are charging for things you shouldn't be, and are thus in violation and should be reported yourself. Do not mess with me on this, I'm making inquiries so I do not come into violation, which you would have known if you had read what I was saying to begin with.

@markdf

Just about every major server I've played on gives distinct advantages because people donate or keep playing, giving the server some kind of user value (like social media sites, less users makes it less relevant).

This isn't "gameplay advantages", as many of them require if you have creative, you can only use it in creative worlds, etc. Feed, fly, heal...that's standard "VIP access" for almost every server I've played on (well, ones that are around for a while).

I'm not twisting anything around about the EULA, and my statement about jail and courts were for the purpose of "asking this question isn't ignorant since people don't ask the right questions and end up in jail waiting for a court date so they can have Acme Inc and the State tell them what they could have learned by simply asking.

And no I'm not saying that "if everyone does it that makes it okay" I'm saying everyone does it and no one has done anything about it yet, which makes people think it's NOT against the EULA naturally. That's like being raised around thieves, then making a theft on your own, and it doesn't seem right when you get "caught" or whatever.

Now taking a look at the EULA, it says no mod or plugin can be used to make money, but if you read before that it is only regarding plugins YOU (the user) make. Ergo, they aren't covering any other person's plugins. It's THESE sorts of things guys like me catch that guys like you wouldn't, see?

What you said regarding "giving advantage over other players" or whatever, is not mentioned at all in the EULA, and if it is then I can't find it (and would like you to point it out).

Bottom line, after reading (all other servers aside) there is a way to make money off plugins, and though we know what constitutes a plugin, Mojang has final say on if it is or isn't a plugin. We're in legal jargon now, so "tree" isn't so much a trunk with leaves if the legal definition says otherwise. Therefore, a normal layman's plugin may not be seen as such by Mojang. So to make money off a plugin, you can only do so in a time where it's simply an "extension for your server" and possibly by the EULA even if it integrates with your system directly, it would be no use to Mojang ergo not a plugin/mod. DynMap is a good example.

@ChenSun11

Yeah, just a little bit more. You need to know how to setup a bukkit server and how to do permissions. Google is your friend and will surely lead you to the light.

@ronniewong2004

RONNIE! Your'e back, I've missed you :)