It looks like there may be a bukkit bug preventing me from fixing the log spam problem. Please stay tuned while I wait to hear back from the bukkit team. :)

https://bukkit.atlassian.net/browse/BUKKIT-3226

Hey all, I'm aware of the log spam issue and I will get an update out today which will be compatible with the new recommended build.

@zedadiaswick

/randomregion is not supposed to help anybody find a place to live. It's to randomly teleport around to see what else the world has to offer - for sightseeing purposes. :) /newestregion is supposed to take the player to an area fit for starting out.

Are you actually having performance problems due to this? Maybe I should just remove random region, then. It doesn't serve any useful purpose really, it's just for fun.

@Paril101

You make a good point, let me fix that for you.

@mumblerit

Thanks so much for your very generous compliment. :)

@Pixiyo

The plugin isn't crashing. It will still work. I'm fixing the log spam problem, however you should not be using any plugin with a build it wasn't designed for - your expectation that it would "just work" isn't reasonable. :\

@bigscary

Thanks for the reply. First issue I realize is unfixable so no worries - second issue however.. I can't just do that, because our spawn is completely enclosed. That's the problem. I wanted the spawn to be a safe place where players can read the rules and mingle without fear of external annoyances. I get the point, though, and I will consider changing it up a bit to be "open". Moving the spawn far away works good for now.

Ok, second issue.. nobody can seem to use /homeregion. Even when standing next to another region post, it tells users they cannot teleport from here. Is there a permission I may need for this?

-P

@giggaflop

Hmm I can't get the problem to happen on my end, even with your config. Did you remember to /reload or restart after you changed your config file?

@Paril101

Sorry no, there's no fix for this type of problem. However with the latest versions of Population Density, the region posts are placed before players even get there, so there's zero chance of this happening unless you install PD after players have already built.

@Delocaz

Again, no, there's a region post every 400 blocks, no exceptions. However, you will find that players are never automatically assigned to "live" there because there are no resources. The only way they could get there would be to wander to the post in a boat, or using /randomregion.

@Paril101

It's because the player's home region happens to include the world spawn. That means he's within 200 blocks of the city post anyway, so no need to teleport, right?

The best way to fix this problem is to use /addregion to force PD to move on away from the spawn so that new players will not be assigned to have their homes there. :) It's a good idea anyway, because this leaves you some room for future spawn building, in case you'd like to do that. You mentioned you're using Grief Prevention, so /adminclaims is the perfect tool for reserving that space, if you want to keep that option open.

@Ferkswe

Yep! There's only one open region at a time. So when you do /addregion, the current "open" region is moved to a new area.

@bigscary

Ah, so when I do addregion it uses that instead of the old one? Perfect.

Alright, so mark my previous question invalid. I found the answer to that.

Now then, another question: the "Spawn" part of this plugin is completely borked. That is to say, I can't set a spawn/city region in the same world that is being region posted. Any user who types /homeregion (without the "teleportanywhere" permission) gets a message saying they are already in their home region.. but they aren't, they are in spawn.

Trying various commands shows me that the spawn/city region is an "open region" and appears to act like wilderness. I can't seem to fix this either. No region post generated near the spawn (in fact, the first region opened in -1 0 - the same region that the spawn happens to be in).

I did a bit of research via your open Survival server, and oddly enough it seems set up the same way - I am assuming that the region post at spawn is manually built. If I move the spawn away from the home region,I am afraid that when that region becomes desolate that if the "home region" is located inside spawn again it will break the server completely.

Any help..?

EDIT: Ok, so by the looks of it, I realize now why region 0,0 isn't the default region.. I assume it is reserved for spawn. Anyways, I just went with what your server did and placed it super far away. Should work for now.

Again, is it possible to make regions/posts NOT spawn in Ocean biomes?

Quick question. So, I installed Population Density on my existing server - works very nicely, until one day, somebody who built a giant pyramid noticed that a region post got created at the end of his pyramid. He built it before Population Density, so I figured that might be a problem.

Anyways, from what he tells me, he had named the region his home (/movein?) and is stuck with a perpetual post. I see no instructions here on how to fix issues like this. We also use GriefPrevention, and we tried using an admin claim thinking that maybe it would prevent a post from being created inside the pyramid... nope. Any way I can fix this?

@Marenwynn

Oh, so he's creating players which don't actually represent players. Yep, that's a recipe for... confusion. I don't want to try and work around that level of customization, sorry. :\

I'm surprised that you don't burn out providing the level of support that you do across all your plugins. Thanks for the quick response. :)

I responded to an old ticket for an update on the conflict between these two awesome plugins here. fullwall says, "After testing, I have confirmed that PopulationDensity causes this issue every time (sorry for not posting this here). It is probably something to do with the fact that Citizens creates Player objects that may confuse PopulationDensity. Not sure why from reading the code."

@giggaflop

I don't see the root of your problem right away from your description. Will you please post a pastebin link of your config file?

@zedadiaswick

No, I generally always list noteworthy changes in the logs. Even tweaks I mention.

@zedadiaswick

GP has a mob-spawning-stopping feature. Check your config file to make sure you don't have your survival world listed under "creative rules worlds". In creative rules worlds, GP will not spawn any entities outside of land claims. This stops griefers from building, for example, villager spawners out in the wild to try to bog down the server.

@xclucky

I have very good news, this scenario is doable already with PD. :) Make sure yoru "city world" is set to the world where you have your tutorial. Then set your "radius from spawn or city to use home region" setting so that it includes your entire tutorial area. Now when you disable teleportation, players will still be able to use ONLY /homeregion to get out of your tutorial, and /cityregion from their home post to get back to world spawn.

@Blockia

I'm sorry, but I really don't know. This is the first time anyone has ever come to me with an error of the sort you're seeing. I'm not sure whether it's your java, or perhaps something else. I think most plugins (including mine) are developed for Java 6, if that helps.

@Marenwynn

You can increase the amount of time between scans in the config file. The scan usually only takes about 30 seconds, and usually only cuts the server ticks per second in half during that time. There's no option to NOT scan when the plugin loads, because I don't want to take the risk that a new player will be plopped in an inappropriate area for him, which is very possible because the plugin might be brand new on the server, or the world might have changed substantially after the last shutdown.

There's no issue with loading config files I assure you, because that has nothing to do with server ticks. I can't speak for certain about citizens, but I think it would very extremely odd for any plugin to outright not work properly when the server is not running at full speed - at worst, I'd expect plugins to run a little slower. Maybe there's something very odd about the design of citizens - have you asked the developer if he/she has any insights into a relationship between initial load and server ticks per second?

I really like the concept behind this plugin... but would it be possible to tone down how much system resources this plugin uses when scanning for new regions? Or disable/delay the scan when the plugin starts? The spike causes some plugins not to load properly, like Citizens, and I have to do a manual reload for my NPCs to appear. I think it may be interfering with some plugins unpacking their configuration files at first boot too...