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@ZariusT

Are you hosting on crabdance.com? (lol) Tried the link on this page just now, but I couldn't connect to the address.

@ChillerKraft

OtherDrops is purpose-agnostic. This plugin wasn't designed to achieve anything, other than giving the server admin more power over their server (mainly through manipulating cause-and-effect). It can many of the things you mentioned if you know how to use this plugin. I say many, and not all, because I don't understand all of your requests.

"Nerf mob traps by disabling drops from [mobs killed by] environmental damage."

Very possible. I think the plugin, by default, comes with a drops file for this purpose. If you activate it, it should work (although I don't know if it's outdated; if it is, tell me). Now if you want to disable drops from mobs who took too much damage from environmental causes, this is not possible due to vanilla Minecraft restrictions (it's a problem with how the game is currently designed).

"im looking for an updated plugin to disable drops being damaged and other stuff,"

What does "drops being damaged" mean? You mean like damaged tools? What is "other stuff"? If you want me to be as helpful as possible, you have to ask clear questions. ;)

"does what i pasted on the first line reate to that or am i misunderstanding"

I'm not sure what you mean, as the first line and second line of your comment look like two different things.

"also, if so, can it stop fire from damaging drops?"

Fire was never able to damage your items. I don't even know how it would do that. If you meant mobs, no, that is not possible (due to the way vanilla Minecraft is designed).

@Noxcode

I've never used the "height" parameter myself, but have you tried "10-20" or putting what you currently have in brackets? (e.g. [">10", "<20"])

When you specify multiple values for a single parameter, you generally have to enclose the whole set in square-brackets.

@Onewingseraphim

The money parameter would be most useful here:

    PLAYER: #this is the "object" or the thing we are killing
    - tool: [ANY, -PLAYER] #this is the thing doing the killing
      money.victim: -100 #this is the side effect
    - tool: PLAYER
      money.steal: 100

Here is the idea. If a PlayerEntity dies from a player, the killer gets $100 and the victim loses $100. If a PlayerEntity dies from anything else, the victim loses $100 and nothing else happens.

On a small note, there is a caveat if you want to do something concerning only mob-related deaths. Surely enough, DAMAGE_ENTITY_ATTACK includes all mobs that do direct melee damage. But death by mob projectiles is a lot harder to handle, and specifying the projectile in the cause will overgeneralise to non-mob projectiles. I'm unaware of a workaround to this.

@Surfonthesky

Hm, you reminded me to update documentation on the Creatures page. Thanks for that. You'll find the information needed at the bottom of the page.

An example of changing mobhealth would be "ZOMBIE@25h". Changing mob-damage is not possible via OtherDrops, but I can redirect you to MobManager which lets you change both mobhealth and mobdamage.

@PacManiacDK

I think it's an OtherDrops bug with permissions, as @ZariusT stated, so you'll be better off sending the config file to him this time (as per his request).

I do have another question though. When you say "normal players sometimes get the VIP token when using bow and arrow," what do you mean by "sometimes"? Could you perform a test where a player in a normal group kills a mob (via bow and arrow) that has a 100% droprate for the VIP token? If it still drops "sometimes", the issue would be odd indeed, but if it drops all the time in that test, it means OtherDrops isn't doing something right with permissions.

For your second issue, I want you to also confirm this via a test where the killed mob has a guaranteed droprate (to make experimentation easier). If this outcome also occurs "sometimes" with a 100% droprate, the issue would be odd, but if it's "all the time", then it's likely a problem with OtherDrops' logic flow.

Lastly, even though these problems are probably out of my scope, it wouldn't hurt to send me your server.log with "verbose" (for OtherDrops) set on the highest level so I can monitor what exactly OtherDrops is "thinking".

@ZariusT

Oh yeah, have you gotten my PM about the documentation?

If you want, you could also just dump a massive changelog on me and I'll sort the features out for you (as long as some of the more complicated ones have examples to help me understand them).

@PacManiacDK

It would be helpful if you could post all relevant snippets of your drops configuration. It might simply be a flaw in logic flow.

For your first point, it should be immediately clear that arrow damage source is handled very differently from melee damage (which has the luxury of directly specifying a source; arrows do not, because arrows are technically the thing that did the damage). I will not make any further assumptions, however, because I'm not sure how you configured your drops. I could be wrong.

For your second point, what if a mob kills another mob on its own without any amount of player assistance? Will it also sometimes drop the VIP token? If this is true, and we have the above scenario occurring, I would guess that the problem lies in how you specified your "tool," or in this case, cause of death for dropping vip tokens.

If my second hypothesis is not true, then there is likely an issue external to OtherDrops that cannot be fixed inside of OtherDrops (perhaps it's a vanilla Minecraft mechanic which changes the cause of death depending on the history of damage source).