Bukkit

@Faldonboy

Well considering the 1up was only intended to give 1 extra life anyway, that would do just fine. Otherwise could create a custom "duplicate" of this mob of a this@35? with it's own settings. xD

Well perhaps I will have to do some more digging of what OtherDrops can do or something to create some kind of lifesteal/regen. Even if it's a potion effect on a certain amount of damage this entity does to a player? I have no idea. XD

As far as the dropping of inventory, we're using McMMO so losing items and dealing damage isn't an issue for unarmed users, and since the player will be standing where the items drop anyway it'd only be a moment unless they died from the mob anyway. Which of course these are intended to make our world just a little harder anyway, so I think it's fitting. Either way, it is certainly something to ponder and consider with my Co-Owner.

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Well I am bound to learn all I possibly can about this plugin and if the wiki exists in any way shape or form still I could attempt to breathe some life into it of what I learn along the way?
I'm sure you guys would review everything and be sure it was correct. xD

@Faldonboy

1up: Impossible

Technically, couldn't this be semi-possible with the percentage to respawn a duplicate of that mob? So in a sense it would be a very rare occurrence if set on a chance? :P

With a:

drop: this/1/%%

And if by giving all custom mobs their own HP setting, it could only target those mobs with that HP setting with:

ANY_CREATURE@80HP:
    drop: this/1/%%

That would work, wouldn't it? ;P

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And for:

Lifesteal: Maybe? I haven't looked into mobs recovering HP

Would pairing together both:

ANY_HOSTILE@80HP: [i]Because we only want hostile mobs to trigger this[/i]
trigger: hit [i]This would be the entity hitting the player[/i]
trigger: fixtool [i]this would heal the entity because it hit the player[/i]

Would that work? (I had something else before but I rechecked the documents and found I needed to correct this from trigger: damageattacker to trigger: hit)
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with how those work just yet, but a quick go over of a few of the pages and a very brief and quick knowledge of what I gathered it just might.

If there were a random variable generation this would do lovely if it were so.//

Also..

Thief: Requires external plugin

Could be possible with:

ANY_HOSTILE@80HP: [i]Because we only want hostile mobs to trigger this[/i]
trigger: hit [i]This would be the entity hitting the player[/i]
drop: contents [i]This would cause the whole inventory to drop, which Infernal Mobs just causes the weapon to drop normally, but this would do it anyway. Though I am unsure if it is possible to specify the player is the one doing the dropping of stuff?[/i]

EDIT:
Sounds like there is more possibility for more custom mobs if we go through OtherDrops to create them, and if I am not mistaken it would be more lightweight on the server to just use this plugin to handle them too, instead of using both plugins together (if we ever found a way to) since it seems both plugins are calling on the entity spawning through bukkit. (We do have a few mobs set up through your plugin to spawn; like Giants that will drop a rare looting item to be used on Infernals/Custom mobs to increase chances of drops or the drops themselves)

Note:
I love that permissions can be given for events, it means we can nestle these custom items into a Profession type we have already setup or create our own 'elite' professions using the custom items. I plan to give Gold Items a use again! :D

Moment of squee!
I was super excited to find this plugin and to see how much it is capable of! The more I go over it, the more excited I get to be using it! ^.^ I wonder what else we could remove/change plugin wise by using this plugin, I shall have to go over our list and see what we're using and what can be replaced. nods I got laughed at when I squee'd at my Co-Owner because of this wonderful work of code! :D And to top it off you guys have been so patient and helpful in assisting to get Infernals working with it and answering all my questions. Think I found another favorite Dev Team!
When I understand the plugin better, and how things work; and perhaps when/if I get my custom spawns up I shall submit some of them for download/inclusion? I'd also like to try to help write some of the pages if I could, even if it meant I wrote them off page and submitted them to one of you? I think I saw a wiki somewhere, and it was mentioned to be outdated?

@Faldonboy

I'm just using Ess Eco because I use Essentials anyway for a lot of other things, and I've never had an issue with it before. Why bother getting something else to handle my Eco when something else I'm already using for so much can offer it?

Just like to be completely honest with you, if OtherDrops could handle nearly every ability that Infernal Mobs can, we'd be using just OtherDrops.
Though you said some of them would be impossible, and the documentation for custom mob spawning isn't available to go over to get a good idea of what is...

Vault = Version: 1.2.27-b349

I haven't found Dev Builds or locations for Dev builds for either of them if I recall. :\ Can't seem to find a Dev Link on their pages and for some reason I am no good at hunting down Dev Builds that aren't linked./marked "Dev Builds" or something..

@Faldonboy

Yes there are errors for Dependancy when loading the config files for OtherDrops, and one of them mentions something about CoreProtect. I had posted these in a ticket the other day if you'd like to take a peek at them.

I did try another eco, but I disabled Essentials to do it, and it did run with the other eco but I don't think I had Co installed on the test server at the time either..

@Faldonboy

Is there an ETA of when the Dev Builds will be available?
I'd really like to update to that 2.8b580 build as I do think that's my issue with CoreProtect. We've been wanting to do away with the current mob payout plugin as it's really annoying in how it works and spits out messages per each kill. :P
Really love how this can handle cash rewards/charges and we get to decide the messages if any.

@Faldonboy

I spoke a bit with the Dev of Infernal Mobs, he does not know how to make API's and apparently the plugin tracks a mob's UUID in an array list, which is removed when the mob dies or despawns.

I've requested he put the source code up for his plugin, but I am unsure if he will manage to do so or how much it will help.

@Faldonboy

Yeah using the command they seem identical in the output I get..

@Faldonboy

Providing that 20.0h is health, then they are all the same, even ones with a different ability. I also learned, that by using this command it tells me how the mobs are spawned. If I can find a mob that spawned "naturally" I can find out how to target them
maybe..

So I managed to get to a "natural" spawned Infernal and this is the data I got... Idk if any of it is useful from determining them different...

SKELETON@!!normal!!!!
UNSPECIFIC_META:{meta-type=UNSPECIFIC, enchants={[i]some weapon stuff[/i]}
spawnedby: NATURAL

[b]and another[/b]
SPIDER@!!!!
spawnedby: NATURAL

[b]One more[/b]
CREEPER@UNPOWERED!!!!
spawnedby: NATURAL

Comparing these, I don't think there is anything that I can use to tell them apart :\

and for good measure I compared the output data from that command of a non-infernal to an infernal... Identical information.. :\ Though the ones I inspected for that comparison were a "spawnedby: not set"

@DivinityCraft

I'd like to get a Dev Build too, I think it would help solve some of my own issues. However, the currently available builds do work on 1.7 though with a few bugs/incompatibilities with a few other plugins. So it's something to get started with anyway...

How do you download dev builds? The link doesn't work.

@Faldonboy

I am not sure about it to be honest with you...
Though the Dev just added a configuration to his latest update that lets us set the prefix.

nameTagsPrefix: "§cInfernal "

I have tried just putting this prefix in the file, adding on the mob's end (actual) name to it in the file. None of that is working.
And I come to find out the "spawnedby: custom" setting isn't working either. :\ I slap down [natural, custom] as last I checked brackets were 'both/all of these' and every mob is dropping everything i don't want them to.
I cannot seem to find a way to single out the "natural" spawning of the Infernals. Now the Infernals that have an abilitiy to multiple, the doubles will drop what I want with CUSTOM set, but not the originals.