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@OldPrelude

How do you make performance decisions for your server? Do you "gut feel" everything? Or do you test metrics and facts? If the former, you can stop posting here, I have no interest in engaging in a performance dialog without factual performance numbers. If the latter, then if you would kindly post your factual concerns, I will gladly take them under consideration. Since you haven't posted any yet, I'll share my own numbers:

Vanilla Craftbukkit 1.7.2 on my Linux server running Sun Java 1.7.0_25 (Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (23.25-b01 mixed mode)) with no plugins consumes 46.4MB of PermGen after startup. Adding just LiftSign increases that to 49.9MB, giving a total memory "weight" of 3.1MB. Installing CraftBook for comparison (which also requires WorldEdit), gives a total startup footprint of 52.2MB, or 5.4MB of memory "weight".

And both of these numbers are completely moot on a small server where memory is not a concern or on a large server where you have more than enough memory and are CPU limited instead. If you happen to be on a budget memory server where you believe the difference between a 3MB in-memory plugin and a theoretical smaller 1MB in-memory plugin justifies the cost/time of hiring a developer to write said smaller plugin, then please feel free to do so. Assuming you are "gut feel" performance optimising, you're just swinging blindly and not actually achieving any significant memory or performance gains, but I won't stop you. Best of luck.

@bennerkaj

>version
[07:45:57 INFO]: This server is running CraftBukkit version git-Bukkit-1.7.2-R0.2-b2974jnks (MC: 1.7.2) (Implementing API version 1.7.2-R0.2)
>version LiftSign
[07:46:01 INFO]: LiftSign version 0.4.1
[07:46:01 INFO]: Author: andune

I tested a few lift signs with the above configuration and it works fine for me. Make sure you set the permissions correctly.

@OldPrelude

LiftSign will not slow down your server, in fact, it is specifically coded to cache sign data so that it is very efficient. CPU is the single most precious resource on most MC servers and all my plugins are coded to preserve CPU, trading off a little bit of RAM if necessary to do so. There are servers out there where RAM is tighter than CPU, if that's you and you've done some analysis to determine that LiftSign is so big that 1MB in memory is preventing that 20th player from logging in, then maybe it's not for you.

Keep in mind, an average player takes between 50-80MB in chunks and other plugin data, so LiftSign is roughly equivalent to <2% of one player. If you had 50 other plugins just like LiftSign, that's one total less player you would be able to have if we assume you're on a memory-maxed server. But if you have 50 other plugins and you're complaining about memory, then you're using the wrong server for the job.

Last note, I write plugins for fun. If you want a "commercially efficient" plugin, then you should hire a developer at developer rates to build one for you. LiftSign just so happens to be "commercially efficient" anyway, but I didn't write it to sell into a commercial market, so you're barking up the wrong tree if you're trying to find commercial plugins.

@ChaosThosis

You need to enable the permissions, which are described in the project description above. If you do not currently use a permissions system, then you can read about them here:

http://wiki.bukkit.org/Understanding_Permissions

Alternately, you can edit the LiftSign.jar and edit the 'plugin.yml' and change the default from 'op' to 'true'.

@craftik7

More power to you, though not sure why you came by here to tell me about it.

I wrote this because the original SignLift plugin was not open source and I won't run closed source plugins on my server. The author of that plugin didn't want to open source his code when I asked him about it, as I was volunteering to fix some bugs. Perfectly within his rights not to, but with so many good open source plugins out there and having found backdoors and severe lag-inducing plugins in the past (that were obviously so after reviewing the code), I won't run them on my server. You're free to choose differently.

I understand that the SignLift author has since changed his stance and open sourced his plugin, but this one was already written and I'm happy with how it works so I continue to use it myself and support it. If you still are having success and like the SignLift plugin, I'm glad for you, please go post on that plugin's thread to let the author know, I'm sure he'll be happy to hear it. It really has nothing to do with this plugin.