Hey guys, coming today or early tomorrow, the creative mode features for GP! Please look over these rules for creative worlds and tell me if you think they're too restrictive or too exploitable (griefable). If I'm leaving any gaps, please tell me as soon as you notice one. Thanks!

In creative worlds:

• Each player MUST claim before he can build. They'll be told about the golden shovel when they try to build in the wilderness.

• Because players have unlimited building resources, they're not allowed to unclaim land. Otherwise, they could build something ugly, they move their claim and build something else ugly, making a huge mess for admins to clean up. Yes, admins can still shrink and delete claims.

• Because /restorenature can't close a gaping hole in the map, explosions don't destroy blocks. Otherwise, griefers could use enormous amounts of TNT to make an enormous crater which would be very tedious to clean up. Since players are in creative mode anyway, they don't need TNT to speed up land clearing.

• Items aren't allowed on the ground. Players can't drop them, destroyed blocks don't drop them, monsters don't drop them, etc.

• There's a limit to the number of entities (monsters, animals, items, minecarts, etc) in each claim, which grows as the claim gets bigger. When a claim is at its max, players can't place new entities, and new entities will not spawn their naturally. Yes, this includes craftable golems and standard monster/animal spawns.

• Fluids do not flow OUT of claims, or into neighboring claims.

One potential issue I'm concerned about is spawning lots of animals near the edge of a claim, and baiting them into the wilderness. Tracking the movement of animals to keep them inside the claim would be too expensive. Please tell me if you can think of a reasonable solution for this potential exploit!

@deseven

Sorry deseven, I don't understand what you mean by filtering the events. Is there more to your error message than that?

@bigscary

well i do got some very restarted players......not there fault there real young

@codydbgt

I said I wouldn't add it, up until a few days ago when I woke up and realized I could do it with a few tweaks rather than a giant rework. I did post about my plans here, but I guess you missed it (you were probably already working on it by then anyway).

My solution to the problem you described is just to block players from shrinking or deleting their claims (only enlarging). So if they want more land they can have it, but I don't want anybody building something, then moving the claim just so they can build more something. Real players wouldn't do this because they want their creations protected, but it's exactly what griefers would do to make a mess.

Players are no longer awarded claim blocks when they log out. They get a few every 5 minutes, assuming they're moving around and doing stuff during that 5 minutes (not AFK or just chatting). I need to update the video.

I don't think inventory separation is a good idea. If anyone is running a plugin to support BOTH a creative world and a survival world on their server, they probably already have that inventory separation and game mode changing from THAT plugin. If they want to manage worlds, let them figure out how to do that. We only have to worry about preventing grief on the creative worlds.

There's already a feature to ditch the noob plots.

I'll consider on the confirmation thing for worldwide trust. But I dunno what else your players expect if they're not in a claim and use /trust?

@TJW28

Does sliced bread help you fight Minecraft grief??

The price is per block. If you set price to 5 and they use /buyclaimblocks 200, they would need to have 1,000 server cash.

Did you turn off PvP in the server.properties? That's what GP looks at. If you're doing something with another plugin like WorldGuard, that might not be enough. PvP has to be 100% turned off for the world. You could explicitly disable GP's pvp stuff in the config, if that's easier for you.

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yes, auto-ban disallowed ;)

:'( thats just Honorable luck ;\ >_>

I though you would never add it ......

You owe me XD.... if you can add me on Skype(codydbgt or cody goodell) that would be awesome ..... another plugin anther helped me on this first plugin of mine...... im learning java at the speed of light.... iv had lots of coding experience just need to learn the bukkit api and get used to it..........i plan on adding some feature like game-mode changing and item blocking.....and far far down the road freaking inventory separation...multinv doesn't give me enough security to make me believe that my players aren't getting stuff from the creative world to the survival or the fact that they just loos there inventory. ill be doing lots of testing when you release your update.

the only problem im having now is that i would like timeout's for player making and removing claims so like making a claim removing it then making another one in like 5 mins would stop them from making more claims......having issues with this in creative world

and many of ply players aren't getting there reworded claim plots......you stated that they get them when they log out ;\ some players have been on hours and still aren't getting them...some are thoe.....so i would recommend using a actual timer....or adding it when they remove or place a claim.

also some of my players dont understand you can give trust to all your claims if your not in one......adding a confirm would help prevent that.....you could make that toggle-able in the config :D.

also add it so if you don't place a certain ammoun't of blocks or destroy a certain amount of blocks then it will remove your claim in a set period of time that will get rid of noob or grief plots

Hope you add me on skype!

i got steam to and a team speak server Pm me if you want details

Hey guys I decided to delay the new features a couple of days. They're done and tested, but just to get some confidence, I'm going to run them on my server for a couple of days just to make sure I didn't break anything before I give those changes to you guys. Some of the changes were a pretty big deal (on my end), so I want to play it safe.

@NickXDD

You can use /ignoreclaims for that. But use it sparingly - unless someone is explicitly asking you to help them give someone permission in their claim, you might be opening the door for a griefer, or at least for some sadface if the claim owner didn't really want that guy to have permission.

@kalau

Why do you want to remove old claims? Unless they're so ugly that they make your server look bad, you should leave them. Seeing builds tells new players they're on a successful server, and not some new thing that could crash and burn tomorrow (which will make them not want to build).

If crowding is your problem, get PopulationDensity.

There's already a way you can turn off automatic free claim points, leaving only the economy option. I think taking claim blocks away from players for dieing or just not playing on the server doesn't do anything good. Players who play all the time but die all the time could be good builders who deserve more land. Bad at combat doesn't mean bad at building. And you want good builders to build lots of stuff, to make your server look good. ;) Taking away blocks from offline players doesn't change anything about the world, and may lead to players AFKing on your server all the time, so they're taking up space but not actually playing.

@codydbgt

Oh shit cody, I seriously just finished coding the creative part for this. :) Sorry! I will look at yours though, maybe we can work something out to get the best overall result for our users.

i think i will make my first plugin public for ya all i made a creative add-on for this plugin :D

not sure if this will get removed but its it up!

http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/grief-prevention-creative

@kalau

the best solution to poking around is to use /ic /ignoreclaims ...

if your not an admin you shouldnt be poking around though so that wouldnt apply then

Hi,

why is there no permission / command for admins to trust a protection area of someone else?

Greetz, NickXDD

@pur3pros

Localizability is on the todo list. I'm just procrastinating that giant code change.

No, the temporary blocks that re sent only to you while you're managing claims aren't configurable.

@zathrus_writer

Very glad you like it. :) It looks like you disabled the auto ban?

@HexaDroid

Right, so lockette sees that the chests are shared because it knows how to read lockette signs. But GP doesn't, so players have to use /containertrust or /trust to give their friends access to the claim(s) containing the chest(s). You don't really need lockette once you have GP claims in place, so what you might do for now is disable GP's anti theft and give players a week or two to place claims, then re-enable GP's anti theft and delete Lockette.

As for who owns the chest, it would be whoever created the claim that the chest is inside.

@Hoovkid

/adminclaims. Read the admin details page linked above, and watch the vid there.

@ryvix

Whoops, I think you're the first to ever do that. Or at least, the first to admit it. Actually, all claim changes go instantly to file so that you won't lose data if you server crashes. So reloading from file doesn't change anything.

I can do that second thing you mentioned. I'll try to remember to get it into today's update.

Hello,

I have a little request. I just accidentally did /abandonallclaims playername instead of /deleteallclaims playername

So it went and deleted all my claims instead the players I was trying to delete (who got banned). Luckily I only have 5 so it wasn't so hard to restore them from a backup. This is where my request comes in.

Is it possible to have some sort of reload command to reload claims from the files? Is this possible somehow already and I am just not seeing it? Using /reload is not an option as that tends to break all sorts of things.

Maybe it would also be possible to check if /abandonallclaims has a player name after it and not run it.

Thanks!

@zathrus_writer

HAHAHAHA!!!! LOL! :D