There was a flurry of activity and quick responses for a couple days - now questions seem to be hanging out there a bit.

It would be really helpful for me to be able to set group with ecoPromote instead of just adding groups. That's one of the final issues that's holding up my release of 1.3.x on my server.

I know there may be other things going on, so if I'm going to have to find a workaround for the time being, I just need to know that.

Thanks, eubie

@eubie67

Ok - I've discovered a couple things.

1. When I update the config.yml, a Reload is not enough to make everything sync up. I have to restart the server, then the econ checks work as expected.

2. It appears that ecoPromote works by checking a player's dollars, then adding any groups (ranks) that a player qualifies for to their existing list of permission groups. If more than one group is added at one time, these groups are added in what appears to be random order.

This is ok if the player gradually earns money and works his way up through the ranks one rank at a time. Other than that, it can create problems in a couple of ways.

First, if the player earns a bunch of money all at once, qualifying for a rank that is two or more ranks above his current rank, all of the new groups are added - the highest group earned and all those in between, but not in rank order. So that the permissions.yml may not list the highest ranking group at the top of the list of groups for that player. This messes up the player's name prefix because PEX displays the prefix for the first group on the list in the permissions.yml file. This prefix is the primary indication of the player's rank on the server.

Second, if the player gets demoted for any reason, then even if the groups were in the proper order to begin with, the order gets all out of whack.

Third, once the group orders are out of whack, subsequent promotions are wonky because it appears to the player that he is one rank because of the name prefix, when he is actually a different rank.

On my server, players ascend through the ranks and earn different permissions with each rank-up. Permissions are inherited from lower groups so that ranking up does not result in the loss of any permissions - they are cumulative. Thus, each player should only be in one permission group - the highest one they qualify for based on the number of dollars they have.

All this to say, it would be very helpful to me if there was a way to set a flag that would cause CEX to check the player's dollars, then set the group to the highest qualifying group rather than add all the qualifying groups to the current list of groups. Like what happens when you issue a "/pex user <playername> group set <group> [world]" command. I can see why some would want groups added, so I wouldn't suggest the existing functionality be eliminated, but I'm hoping this replacement functionality can be added.

Thanks, eubie

@iKeirNez

Some additional info. About an hour after I left the previous comment, the auto promote process executed and the player was promoted to the appropriate level. I'm going to do some additional testing and see if maybe the ecoPromoteTaskTime setting is picky. I have it set to 30 seconds, and maybe there's something going on with a cycle time that's longer than 30 that's getting in the way. I'll try some different settings and let you know what happens.

BTW - I used to use iConomy and it was great, but I jumped to BOS when the iConomy page went inactive. Now I see that it has been picked back up and a new version is out in alpha.

Thanks, eubie

Is there a trick to making ecoPromote work? I feel like I've got the setup right, as best I can tell from the instructions in the wiki. Strangely, I have gotten a couple successful promotions based on dollar amounts at random times, but 95% of the time it doesn't seem to work.

Here are the relevant lines from config.yml

ecoPromoteTaskTime: 30
ecoPromoteExclude:
- Admin
ecoPromoteAutoDemote: false

ecoPromote:
  Peasant: 101
  Serf: 500
  Vassal: 1000
  Merchant: 2000
  Knight: 5000
  Samurai: 10000
  Lord: 25000
  Baron: 50000
  Shogun: 100000
  King: 300000
  Emperor: 700000
  Overlord: 1000000
  ChuckNorris: 2000000

I'm using PEX, Vault and BOSEconomy. Everything else seems to work. I can add, set, pay, etc. in BOSEcon. I can promote, demote and set groups in PEX. But when a player crosses a dollar threshold, the econPromote doesn't kick in. Like I said, strangely, it actually did promote two or three times during testing, but they were pretty random. Like when I gave a player money to get them to 5000, it would promote them, then I'd give them 5000 more to get them to 10000, and nothing would happen.

Are there any permission nodes to set up for ecoPromote? I couldn't find any mention of them.

Anything else I should be checking?

Thanks! eubie