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Then I have a solution for you, Make a script to dump all the players items directly back to the player when they login. and keep a check list of the players so we can see who has the items back.

Make this a TEMP build that supports 1.1 on current system then keep working on your new system in mean time we let everyone know the new web auctions you will items if you leave them on there. Then I simply install this temp version prior to updating to the real MC1.1/1.2 version.

Edit: Just adding to the other users Idea about opt in feature for auto mail send, probably should add a Mail all button to the my items list, in fact maybe even just add the items with a selection tick box then grab the ticked items to mail all selected with a select all button ?

Keep up the awesome work love how this plugin is just the type thing we wanted to offer our users. We went as far as coding up the web parts to blend into our website!

I see your working on a full CMS system will this hurt site integration in the long term for users like my self? Updates will already be by hand since I already re coded the web parts to look like my site but just how much of this new CMS would I have to remove to get the code I want?

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how about an option per user whether to autosend to mailbox or not, that way players could opt in for such functionality, which is extremely useful, but confusing to new players.

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We run two different instances of it for different servers, the 2nd one is fairly new/not as large, but it drives a ridiculous amount of webtraffic.

starting over will be messy to say the least....3500 current auctions

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Looks good, seems little more bulk has been added to webend tho ;).

I guess Im going with fixed sale and buy rates I don't want them fluctuating at all. So I will just put the fixed buy price over a calculator - 2% and use the sum of this as a fixed sale rate.

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Not if the sell rate was a fixed % of the buy rate ;), but that would be easy to do with a simple calculator you would simply put in the buy rate then reduce it by a % around 1.5% so you all always end up selling it for less than its buy rate with some stuff being worth no sell value at all like if the buy rate was 1 or 5 and a 2% less sale rate would make the selling of that item almost pointless.

But on properly formulated sales figures it would not an issue. On my server we use an excel spread sheet that calculates item value based a number of variables like rarity in the game world and %'s for buy vs sale this gives everything a consistent buy price. Like iron and its tools would be almost the cost of the crafting material iron.

I guess I could start fresh that's not an issue but it would be quite annoying for the infinite stack sales tho, and in general it would be so annoying to get people to give themselves back the items they have stored or on auction.

If I was to make a complicated script I would leave out all the variables for market price and all of that stuff just grab the items the the users had and items with 0 stack and just pruge it all into the correct user accounts of the new tables.

Forget all about the stats of the items just purge all the block id's to the users my items. and with the 0 stack items it should not be hard to add the cost to the admin shop so that they are for sale.

I have a question about the admin shop again tho how does this function does it work under a admin user like before or is it completely separate from user accounts?,

Also another much needed Idea In the my items section add a MAIL ALL button ;) and remove the the on_player_move event watching it is not needed and is the main cause of lag on large servers.

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I mentioned the in-game verify ;), I said that it would be the best solution as people get confused about wa password so much, Best solution would be to get them just login to the site once then when they login to server next they are displayed a verify auction account msg to accept or deny until then they have no rights to trade.

It is a bit of shame that current database cannot be transferred over, this means everyone will lose the items in the database that is not good and I know a lot of players will rage about that :\.

I would still maybe make a third party tool or script to go into the old tables and do it merge it properly once since even I think it would be too much too manually move things over esp for larger servers.

Regarding the sale price could you mix a fixed buyrate with a % sale rate? this way the sale rate would always be lower than the buy rate and it cannot be abused due to fixed buy rate.

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Well actually now after reading your thoughts hehe. My goal of the idea to eliminate the need for commands period in game as that seems to confuse almost everyone I think a secret key would be pretty much worse than current in-game command.

Instead would it not be just that much easier to check the permission system to see if the name exists I mean nearlly everyone uses PEX or something like it would not be hard to grab the user from the supported system flatfile or database or optionally just add a standard PHP anti bot system like CAPTCHA if it was creating a user for first time. Then in config you could setup an optional remove user if they have not made a trade within x time of registration.

Other than that I don't see why else you would need a in game command to verify anything. maybe even better idea would be let it create an account anyway but it wont be active until they login to the server and accept some web auction msg that could be shown to the player until they have accepted it. This is probably a more secure method as the user would have no hassle setting up an account and they would get notification in game to activate the account on next server login.

Also by sale do you mean you would add selling items directly to the servers admin shop ? like my idea stated ?. I like how the admin shop will work that saves a lot of time. I am actually thinking now that to smooth the transition over to the new shop system you could put an option in config if set true would search the database for any existing infinite stack admin item sales and pre add those with the current buy value into the buy box of the new system. It would really be quite simple I think to add that feature as it would only need to look up all items with a stack of 0 and take the buy price and put that into the admin shop.

This would greatly help most as I think lots of users would already be using the current infinite items admin mode, this way the plugin would automatically see these pre setup items and fill it all in with a sale price that has a % also set in config less than what they are brought for.

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I was thinking about how the password system works and I noticed on the new site that it has a register button now I was thinking maybe there is a smoother way to add a first login password than a whole separate system.

I thought now what if just going to login and typing in your username and then a password into the password box could be used to create a new account using the password they just typed in, If the account already has an existing password, typing in any other password would be invalid login.

Essentially you would replace the register section and merge that with an event of "If table not found" for the username treat it as a new registration and add the table then when the user presses login Display what ever the end of registration would normally display telling them about the new account they just create then proceed to the main page.

If this is not a good idea then you could still use this idea and re direct to the register page if the username had no associated table in the database existing.

Yep I have an another IDEA as well that should get added to the ADMIN shop section What about a method to sell items you have directly to the admin shop, Provided the shop has the items listed to begin with. What you do is you would SETUP your admin shop with items, You could even add all the items in the game directly to the admin shop so we don't need to manually add them by clicking the signs in creative mode since currently what I have done is used an alternate MC account for server administration and set him up as admin on the auction site and then I added all the items manually and created prices for each.

So what I am asking is maybe you could add all the items 1 of each inc the unobtainable directly to the admin shops My Items list so we don't need to give the shop items to start making the auctions with then what you could is add a sell to admin shop feature where it takes any item in the admin shop that has a market value and it uses this market value to calculate a sale price with a reduction of what ever from its sale price allowing us to sell items directly to the market.

EDIT: Also about 1.1 since your late with the update how does one manually add the new items in 1.1 so the system will register them with icons, I know how to get them from the wiki but how do I import this data.