Bukkit

@SzahRakh

Yes.
I use the bukkit plugin "WorldBorder" and prerender sometimes the complete world up to 5000 radius (rendering more will take much time)
Using this and the "dynmap" realtime map plugin (bukkit too), gives orientation.
To use the mouse and hover over the areas in dynmap gives the coordinates.
I use this to teleport (essentials plugin bukkit) by /tppos x / height /y to any location in a second.

Most important image to start with is always the biome image by /tc map.

Additional I use MinecraftBiomeExtractor on a copy of the prerendered world folder to get the right biome colors in the image created by mcmapDZ-GUI afterwards.
This gives you a very nice and zoomable image of the world (prerendered before by "WorldBorder").

Many images I made this way, may be seen in my Tutorial(s) too.
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@IHaTeD2:

1. Same as you did: I use BorderBiome(s)
If you get sharp walls at the ocean biome (common problem), the height values aren´t matching / balanced. This may sometimes be as close as +/- 0.05 in value to decide if it looks smooth....or like a sharp wall many blocks straight up.
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The next part of your question I´m not understanding completely.
You want a world with no landmass, all ocean? (no land above water level is only water)
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2. I can´t see any light / texture problems or even bugs.
I use a customized (by myself) version of MisasHD 64 Texture-Pack and changed many things to match my taste of how it should look in game (swamps, clouds, moon phases and so on)

The cave world style will be made by setting DisableBiomeHeight:false to true in the biome configs. (the best way I know to do this style).
This may lead to some problems, I know.
Try to keep everything as normal (default) as possible.
Starting at this point, try to change only one biome (like adding a glowstone "isle" biome to a normal biome f.i.).
Test this world again and prove, if something building up wrong (like some water parts you wrote).

I must tell you that I didn´t create much cave style worlds all the time, sorry.
Hence I´ve got not much experience how to improve this.
But some images of the errors / problems you told about, would be helpful too.

I feel its important to disable the villages, strongholds and mineshafts because it will build up / look ugly in any cave world, I feel.

Regarding your English, I´m German too ;-)
Sometimes I get complaints about my English too ... but if I have to read some of the sloppy postings of native US, UK and other Engish speaking people, writing in "snake sentences" without any . and , or even breaks.
Its mostly unreadable and often too without a clear question anyway.
I think these should improve too ;-)

My Tutorial (the new one) has been proof-read by ledhead900 (native from Australia) now and I revised the few blotchinesses found by him.
May be there are many Germans here and we may switch to this language in the future ;-))
(... no fear, I´m just kidding)

Bye, mysource

@xWare

... and simmilar "not my signature readers"
(I´ve got 4 more or less this style last weekend only ;-( ... no chance)

Read signature regarding configs carefully !!!
Never waste my time not reading this or not keeping to the "rules" how to get any configs, please.

Regarding this configs, its much more than the configs itself, it needs knowledge to use it...or a complete custom world created by myself..and yes, signature again counts and guides the only way to get it.
Should be well known by anybody in the meanwhile!

Quote:

... :P And tree names

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@amsedal

Hi,
okay ;-)
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By the way, I´ve finished my announced waterfall biome.
It was by far one of the hardest yet getting to work.
But I think, it was worth the effort.
See some screens here:

Its all made by TC´s "map by image" feature and in a very similar, but a little more difficult way as the volcano biome has been made.

My testworld has now 4 waterfalls at some parts, beside the single volcano. ;-)
(Takes me 2.5 hours to find out and try 6 different ideas to get it at least. The volcano was just 1 hour and much easier to create by the first idea I had.)

Good night and bye for now.
mysource

Update:
I read this morning the post in the forum one person looking for a way to create roads in TC.
To prove it will work, I just made this now:
(May be drawn more precise too)

Hi,
the discussion here is mainly :-)...but to a certain state little ;-( too.
Why?
Example: @amsedal:
Thanks about your compliment.
But most you posted (and learned about f.i. the "map size"), has been told in the tutorial some time before, may be a different way.
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@ Thyrin ... many things may be the way assumed, but may be not at all...who knows by 100% now ?
But it doesn´t matter also by 100%, because there are proven solutions how to get everything to work clean, despite some zoom or image size isn´t as expected.
Its totally minor how the zoom of the image one gets by /tc map command will be in size (I told about this in the tutorial and here some times it will be 1/10 of map.png estimated).
Its only important for getting orientation later in game, not for the world build up itself.

The zoom (as Khoon named it) is the thing behind the size of the map image and much more, but not problematic if knowing how to use it or orientate by its smaller size.
If everybody follows the way I told in my last posting, this has no influence.
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In general I try to summarize and suggest my view to this thing here now:

I always do EVERYTHING local, never online!

I only use copies of everything (configs, server setup, just everything), offline for sure always too and ever !

Online = only with the final working result...at the very last steps, if EVERYTHING works and the world has been extensively tested LOCAL !!!!
If I would use a online server the proffessionally way as many here do, I would prerender the complete world before letting anybody hit the game. (tested locally too before by 100%)

1. I get the world map by typing /tc map command in game, using a well configured world configs AND having build up the world by using this.

2. I stop the server.

3. I use the biome image, copy it as created before and paint CAREFULLY my changes.

4. I change the mode in TC to the "map by image" values" (I don´t tell all the steps again).

5. I restart the server, having deleted all the old world folders !!!

6. TC now use the configs and the map.png to build up my world.

7. I stop the server again. (making /tc map before again too, just to control and get orientation again).

8. In case of the volcano biome (details later and first if someone has got it by himself, because anything else would cut down all the possible fun in positive and creative "competition"....), I try out and build up the world only with this changes by this additional vulcano biome (hint: island biome).

9. The settings used to get the volcano biome to work with a nice size, distribution and so on, are the basis and ONLY change being switched over to the original world configs.

10. Now I paint this volcano biome in the original map.png.

For sure there are some important things too, mainly all only depending of some imagination how everything will work together and will be build up later in the world/map in game....and mainly how this will look.
(This will be far to many hints regarding the volcano biome as an example, how to get some more creative input here...;-)...)

I think TC is using everything as it has been before, but the map.png acts as a last instrument to finetune the map.
I can´t tell different things because only this has given any sense so far in my testings.

2. @ Thyrin:
I believe you will get it, radius 16000 is just some work for the PC and waiting time for you ;-)
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@ ALL the interested people regarding this best Bukkit Plugin ever since Update (v.2.1.8):

I´m sure this Plugin at this level now is by far the most important and best ever regarding MC / Bukkit and world creation possibilities.

I´m sure too, that only very few people imagine at the moment what will be possible with TC now and MC at all !

I´m sure at least, that if we push this Mod to its limits by showing the possible creations, everything only a little in direction of MC world management "tools", will be looking as old as a steam machine comparing to the TC-Plugin ;-)

Its now mainly at us what we will be able and show as creations with this plugin.
Its as it is and has been ever with everything:
If the "crowd" knows about it and its possibilities, nearly everybody will have and use it...and as this Plugin will never be a "noob" or a "just one click" style tool, its our advantage to get it running.
Mainly every server/ server world using not TC v.2.1.8 this days, will be soon faaaaar outdated rearding to the new possibilities.

I think the sens of my thinkings are visible and clear.
We will get this running like hell together and Khoorn will get too some deserved and nice feelings by watching his "Baby" growing this positive way to its new heights ;-))

Bye mysource

Hi,
I first want to show you a new creation I did the last hour: vulcano biome.
This is made not by bo2 (as I did some time ago), its made by a special vulcano biome and the new "map by image" function, just to show what else is possible:

This is the ONLY vulcano in this world now.
Next biome will be a "waterfall biome"..but this is very tricky if my idea will work at all, I will see the next days.
If someone of the most creatives here has a nice idea by his own and get it to work in TC, please show and explain it here, as I do.
... and if someone is even able to comprehend the vulcano biome and by showing his simmilar biome here, I would be very glad to get a helping "team-member" for exchange in special creations and support here too ;-)
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Next shows the map.png and some more explanations about the "true North" and the size of the /tc map image compared to the map.png image used to create this world (after carefully adjust the configs as always before ! )

(Right-click / show image to see in full size)

This shows the relations between everything best in 2 images I think.
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To the questions below:

I switched a little more to this offset:
ImageXOffset:1200
ImageZOffset:1300

The shift can be seen in the images above too, its a little right out of the centre of the map.png (if this is turned to true North for orientation....but not in the plugins / worlds / world folder !).
Spawn point of this world is in front of the single vulcano.

For sure ALL of the regular settings (the ones in all configs) are always working and responsible to build up the world.
The changes made by "painting" later in the map.png, are "only" additionally used to "finetune" the regarding world even more.
I believe that if the difference between the map.png and the settings in the configs is to big, it gives problems as TC is trying to get the configs work together with the map.png.
So take everything with respect and much use of imagination in a way which gives sense.

Example:
No sense would be, using some horrible configs and a totally different map.png too, trying to get a nice world.
This will give nearly never something usable as a result, at least as I´ve tested by myself.
Always create the world first by the usual way with the configs, afterwards this map may be a little "finetunded" by painting in it.

Next Example:
If you paint a "extreme Hills biome" right into a desert biome and don´t use a border biome or simmilar "smooth out tricks", the mountain(s) will pike out of the deserts ground to ist maximum height values, which have been set in its "Extreme HillsBiomeConfig.ini" ... and corresponding all the other configs will act still exactly the same and this is exactly how they shall do. (If this would be not the case, everything wouldn´t work at all.)

To prove this, just don´t hit/paint with the exact color hex value of a certain biome by painting the map.png.
This biome will not show up in your world after this change has made wrongly and every part of its map locations will only be filled with water (ocean) in this world/map.

I stay away from much/totally repaint everything, because this didn´t give me nice results/worlds by testing.
Always stay at the biome map image you`ve got by /tc map without using the "map by image" feature and having the configs created correct as well.
Even now you may beginn the first time to repaint parts step by step in this image and name it map.png...and use it as known by everybody now.

I see often one confusing thing happen:
The map.png isn´t working first and the world will be build up with the values of the forerunner. To get out of this mess, I have to delete the world(s) (in server root) and restart it again, to get the world being build up with the new changes, made by painting the map.png.
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@Thyrin:
I looked at the images you posted and it seem to be some of the problems sometimes made by Minecraft landgenerator itself.....or something in this direction.
I had this in the former versions sometimes but didn´t see it now for a long time again.
I would try with new world buildups as long as it hasn´t this errors in land being build up.
Sorry, I don´t know any other solution or even the exact reason(s) ? for this problem.

Bye, mysource

@ ALL:
Again a small update at the "map by image" Tutorial page. ;-)

@Thyrin

Hi,
You are right....and as can be seen, he is using the mode: from image.
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ModeBiome:FromImage
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But I can´t see his question too...you are right again.

@amsedal

Hi,
I can´t see any problem at all.
For sure it will build up your world named "HelloWorld" as you named it this way in server.properties, bukkit.yml and the folder in plugin/worlds/HelloWorld.
100% okay.

You use this values:
BiomeRarityScale:25
LandRarity:94
LandSize:7
...which should give very small biomes and less landmass at all, if you want this? okay.

level 7 world ... okay if you want to waste the 256 height too.

customTreeChance:50
You don´t want much bo2´s spawning...okay.

The rest you did right as far as you mentioned it and showed your configs.
The command /tc map shall give you now a small part ( about only 1/10 in size of the map.png), showing a very small part of your biome map from the map.png, just like I tell / show in the Tutorial.
I assume you didn´t change anything before using the map.png!
What is the / your problem now? I can´t see it.
Bye mysource