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@mrogaar

That could be the problem, because "/*" is a command that acts as if the player were an operator. So maybe the event is forcibly passed. Could you try it with "/" instead and see what happens? (Note that players who can't use the command will get nothing, but it's still worth testing somehow. If you need to know how to set up an easy, free testing server from your own computer then you can ask me.)

@bigboy2013

I have CoreProtect, OtherDrops, and iConomy, and I'm completely fine, so the problem isn't simply just "OtherDrops doesn't work well with CoreProtect". I'm not sure why things are happening this way, however, as that is truly strange behaviour. People have complained about OtherDrops+Prism, and about OtherDrops+CoreProtect+Economy, but never the two together until your case. Perhaps I'll have to hypothesise a reason later on... Inconsistent behaviour is always the hardest to pin down.

Oh, protip, don't use iConomy. I don't have any suggestions for a good economy plugin; I'm looking for one to replace iConomy myself that isn't loaded with... never mind, I'll save my rants for later ;)

@mrogaar

Could you explain what kind of "griefing" is going on? As in, how is the plugin causing trouble? OtherDrops generally respects protection plugins - if an event is canceled by another plugin, OtherDrops should take no action at all.

@Faldonboy

I've never used it myself, but I've seen other people use it - I would say however, my bias is totally unfair. ;)

Basically, I see Essentials as a "lazy" one-stop solution to running a server, usually for admins who either just don't care enough to put in actual work into setting up their server (ahem, the 10000+ boring and homogenised SMP servers out there), OR admins who think more plugins eat more RAM, which is mostly false. Yes, this is a very unfair generalisation of admins who use Essentials. Did I say unfair? :P (I know this is irrational, and I know many admins are not like that.)

That, and I'm a believer in a philosophy where a plugin should focus on one task, and do that task well. Not one that tries to do everything and ends up becoming a "monopoly" like how Google is trying to offer every last internet service in the world.

So... I want to make one point very clear though. Do I think Essentials is bad? Heck yes! Is it actually bad? Heck no, because it's filling a niche I've no interest in. It works and it probably works well, but doesn't sit well with me.

Also, I mean no offense to all the SMP servers out there. It's a matter of my opinion - I don't think any of them are objectively bad.

@mrogaar

That's essentials(or whatever plugin you're using for /give) you'll have to turn the message off in that plugin somehow.

@CommodoreAlpha

Just curious Commodore, what do you have against Essentials? :P I have a long list of complaints I keep to myself about them and some of their developers haha.

@bigboy2013

No, I use CoreProtect and OtherDrops (same builds), and they work fine for me.

The problem is probably EssentialsEco, but I can't say anything for certain. I should warn you, however, that I'm extremely biased against Essentials, and as such, I would just tell you to find another economy plugin.

@mrogaar

If, by bothering, you mean asking questions, then bother me all you want! That's what I'm here for. :)

Here's a very random example that involves the use of commands:

    ZOMBIE:
      - command: ["/*give %p APPLE 1", "/*give %p DIAMOND 5"]

Here, I have a single entry, for the object which is a ZOMBIE. Because I haven't specified any sort of "trigger" or "tool", it's assumed this entry will "trigger" upon a player killing a zombie (has to be direct via any sort of weapon including bow+arrows).

Within this "entry", I'm telling OtherDrops to run two commands (hence the brackets and the comma in between). Each command, for the sake of not being confusing, must be enclosed in quotation marks.

Now, within each quotation mark is the command itself. "/*" denotes that the command should be run from the player as if the player were an op (don't worry, it doesn't actually op them). Then comes the rest of the command and their arguments; just type it in as if you were actually running the command. The formatting of the "/give" command varies depending on what plugin you're using (or not using). "%p" refers to the "doer of the action", or in this case, the person who killed the zombie.

If that doesn't work, or you're still confused, feel free to leave another comment. What should happen is that killing a zombie gives whoever kills a zombie an apple and five diamonds.

@mrogaar

Generally, you would need another plugin to do that, but keep in mind that OtherDrops can run commands (see "command:" under this page). If you have a plugin that offers the "/give" command (I don't like the vanilla command myself), then you don't need an additional plugin to force all drops into an inventory, although whether you want it or not is up to you.

With the "/give" command, you can just tell OtherDrops to run the correct command, and it will be like the item dropped, but it's instead given directly to the player. One problem with this, however, is that if the player's inventory is full, and you use the "/give" command, the player won't receive anything and the item won't drop (depending on how the "/give" command is executed).

I know CommandBook puts items directly into an inventory and has that problem. The vanilla command drops the item directly onto you, to which you pick it up instantly. But the latter's formatting is ugly. Eh, I guess it's all really up to you. :P

@mrogaar

Apart from "GOLD_BLOCK" being spaced incorrectly, I'm not sure what's wrong with your setup. Perhaps it could've been your spacing style in general. I noticed that you space eight times for each object, and under each object you space an additional four times before starting the "entry", which takes up an additional two spaces. YAML parses spaces in sets of four, not two, which could lead to it ignoring whatever you specify within an entry.

For example, you did something like this:

        OBSIDIAN: # eight
            - tool: ALL # twelve + two
              drop: OBSIDIAN/1-2 # fourteen

When it should be like this:

    OBSIDIAN: # four
      - tool: ALL # four + four
        drop: OBSIDIAN/1-2 # eight

Fourteen cannot be divided by four (without having a remainder), and so, anything that's not dividable by four, in terms of spacing, just isn't read by the YAML parser for some reason. I could be wrong about this, but that's the trend I'm seeing in this issue.

@Sabbykat

Sorry for the delay. I've had a hectic week myself, along with illnesses. :)

Also, I believe I myself came off as hostile, so there's no need to apologise. I'm not sure why Zarius formats it that way, as it only seems a bit more confusing... but people have their own methods.

I would highly recommend testing this on a clean install - and it's actually far easier than you think. You don't even need to use your host, just your own computer (if it's not an arcane Windows 98 computer). Heck, you don't even need to port forward to test this stuff.

All you need to do, is to create a ".bat" file (to start CraftBukkit) and download any build (preferably latest beta build, but not a dev build) of CraftBukkit. Put the two in the same folder, and run the .bat file, and bam, you have a test server up. Just remember to put the correct plugins in the "plugins" folder.

If you're not familiar with what the contents of the .bat file should look like (it can have any name), this is the startup I use:

@ECHO OFF
java -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms1024M -Xmx3072M -jar craftbukkit.jar -o true
PAUSE

(On a side note, you might want to tone down the min and max heap size arguments if your computer doesn't have much RAM.)

Afterwards, launch your client of Minecraft, and "add server" with the address name of "localhost" (because it's your own computer you're running it on), and you've got a testing environment.

Now, there are two primary reasons I prefer a "clean install". First is, I've noticed you have Mo' Creatures installed, and I'm not familiar with the creature names there. It would help me sift through your logs if everything had vanilla names, basically, which leads to the second point: you need to pastebin everything OtherDrops spits at you, so I can get a clear picture on what's going on. Don't hold back; I've sifted through well over 1000 lines of verbose before (and I'm here to help anyhow).

The third reason is that it could have to do with your type of server (MCPC+ with mods, or other plugins you're using) but that's something I doubt is the case. If that's the case, troubleshooting should become relatively easy, hopefully.

@LanToaster

The act of adding (as opposed to setting) loretext is something that another plugin should do. If you meant that OtherDrops should have specific effects based off of specific/exact loretext, it can do that. All you have to do is to specify the item, with the text, as the object.

But if you're thinking of something like "item that contains 'x phrase' within lore", that's not a feature OtherDrops currently has, but is definitely something you should make a ticket for.

@Testercraft

Currently, no, and I've never heard of a plugin that had such an ability. Now, it sounds like a good feature, and I would agree, but with the way potion effects in Minecraft inherently work, it could easily become complicated.

My guess is that there is currently no method in Bukkit or Minecraft to check for what potion effects a player/entity has, let alone the amount of time left. Because there's no check, it's impossible to know how much time to "add", because you can't really add time to potion effects in Minecraft (again, because of how it works). You can only take the current time and change, or set it, to something else. There is no addition/subtraction.

If, however, these caveats are false, and it's indeed possible, it would be a great idea.

@My_Name_Was_Stolen

It sounds like there's an event getting denied somewhere, but I could be wrong. Could you do a quick test run with verbose on highest and send a log of that to me?