Bukkit

@Conorserver

So, there are FlyBlocks, which are required in order for the .craft to function. If sinking is enabled, destroying enough of the FlyBlocks that it drops bellow the minimum will cause the craft to sink. Then there are AllowedBlocks, which are part of the craft but have no bearing on whether or not the craft sinks.

In the default ship.craft, obsidian is in the FlyBlocks, but with no minimum. Instead it has a maximum. So it has no bearing on sinking behavior. Instead the point of the obsidian entry in the flyblocks is to prevent people from making their entire ship our of obsidian, thus making it impervious to harm.

For more information, please read the section on .craft template files: http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/movecraft/pages/documentation/creating-your-craft/notes-about-the-craft/

The bugstomping continues:

1. I have finally fixed a bug that has plagued me since I started working on this last year. It no longer spawns drops of redstone components or other "fragile" blocks when the crafts move. So it no longer has to clean them up. So no more mysterious dropped item losses on or beneath the craft, and no more worrying about players using airships to duplicate items. Simple solution, I wish I had thought of it months ago...
2. It also now loads any chunk it is trying to move a craft into if it is not loaded. This has important ramifications, like you can't accidentally teleport a craft inside someone's structure anymore, and if a torpedo or other unpiloted craft moves outside the loaded chunks it no longer crashes.

Hey for all you guys having lag/client crash problems with large numbers of high altitude airships I think I have something for you. I can't fix it, because the problem is caused by some kind of memory leak in the client every time a block is updated. But I think I have figured out how to minimize it by sorting the ship blocks to minimize redundant lighting updates. It also has the added benefit of increasing performance. The effect on low altitude airships isn't too much, about 10% in my tests at altitude 70. But at altitude 180, it goes about 100% faster (IE: twice as fast). I haven't been able to test the client crash impact yet, but presumably it should decrease client crashes by the same amount.

@robotnikthingy Thanks, updated your ticket. In short its a version mismatch. Where did that build come from? I don't recognize it.

@astronus5 Sweet! A Temple of Remembrance question!

That uses another plugin to impersonate a player, who commands the ship and gets it to move forward. PM me if you want details. Outside of the Temple, it has some limitations and some risks, so its probably not good for wide-spread consumption (yet). But depending on the specific thing you want it for it may work. Let me know in a PM.

@Conorserver

Sounds interesting. I'll have to think on this. The spyglass might make it in the next version, or the one after that. The next one is already pretty full with the .craft data type overhaul, subcrafts, fragile item cleanup, dynamic crashing ships, and performance optimization.

So, out of curiousity, what would you use for the spyglass? I would probably make it configurable. Maybe just a glass block?

@Conorserver

Sorry for the late reply, been busy. It doesn't create a ship until you right click the sign and pilot the craft, is that what you mean? That some of your ships stopped working, but other still do?

So, at first when reading through the spyglass idea I thought there was no way that could be done. But then I thought about it again and it might actually be possible. If you had a "spyglass" item (glass block?) in your inventory and you right click while your cursor is on another ship, perhaps it could check that ship and see if it has chests. If so, it could tell you in a text chat what is in the chest. I will have to think about that and figure out how to keep it from being too powerful. Maybe it chooses the item it tells you about at random or something.

Zooming in I can't do without client plugins (which are probably out of the question), but as you say anyone with Optifine can do that.

One problem I can see with "pirate" type servers is you have tons of pirates, and not much prey. I'm considering making a "npc ship" generator that would make cargo ships at random and send them on missions so people could sieze them and loot them. It wouldn't be part of Movecraft, it would be something separate. I'm sure its possible, but I would probably only do it if there was enough interest. I would love to make it if people use it, but honestly I was dissapointed the Temple of Remembrance PVE event system wasn't more popular.

On your suggestion about ships, if you can control the ship design, you can make rudders and masts vulnerable points. But you can't force people who build their own ships to have them in the location of the rudder or mast. I'm afraid that would require specialized code just for ships, and I want to keep things as open and configurable as possible.

Tell me more about your anchor idea. What would it do?

@Epic_Weasel

What instructions were you following? It think there must be some bad instructions out there and I would like to fix them. What you had tried might be right for a really old version of movecraft, I'm not sure. I started working on the project last October, and it had already been re-written by AJCStriker from an earlier version.

What you should be doing is following either the quick start guide or install and config tutorial listed above. In those instructions it tells you to download the .craft files you want on your server and put them in the types directory.

@Conorserver

Storage crates are a legacy feature now. Its recommended you avoid them. Where did you hear about them, are they still in the documentation somewhere? If so, I should probably remove them. Chests now work fine, use those instead. It won't let you do double chests though. Let's move the sinking discussion to PMs. I will send you a PM.